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Preparation and Setup — Demolish Old Valve

Intermediate16 hours

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How to Convert a 3-Handle Shower Faucet to a Single-Handle Valve · Step 4 of 9

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Begin by understanding the scope of this advanced project. Gather all necessary tools and materials for the installation. The required tools include a Phillips screwdriver, adjustable pliers, an adjustable wrench, a tube cutter, a caulk gun, a tape measure, a thermometer, and safety glasses. You may also need to purchase supplies such as 1/2' copper tubing, couplings, a torch, and a lead-free solder kit. Before starting, ensure the main water supply to the house is shut off. Locate the access panel behind the shower wall; if one does not exist, you will need to cut a 14'x14' opening to access the plumbing.

Goal: Prepare for installation

  • This is an advanced project that may require help from a professional plumber.
  • Ensure you shut off the main water supply before starting.
  • If no access panel exists, you must create one. A 14'x14' opening is recommended.

Used in this video

  • Phillips Screwdriver (Tool Type: Screwdriver)Removing access panel screws and installing faucet trim screws.
  • Adjustable Pliers (Tool Type: Pliers)Gripping and turning pipes or removing the valve cartridge.
  • Adjustable Wrench (Tool Type: Adjustable wrench)Tightening the showerhead.
  • Tube Cutter (Tool Type: Cutting Tool Type)Making clean, straight cuts on copper tubing.
  • Caulk Gun (Tool Type: Caulk Gun)Applying caulk around the tub spout pipe.
  • Tape Measure (Tool Type: Measuring Tools)Measuring pipe lengths and valve positioning.
  • Thermometer (Tool Type: Measuring Tools)Testing the water temperature to set the safety limit stop.
  • Safety Glasses (Tool Type: Safety Equipment)Protecting eyes during cutting, soldering, and installation.
  • Torch (Power Source: Manual)Heating copper pipes for soldering.
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FAQs

This project is rated 'intermediate.' What specific skills or prior experience are essential for successfully converting a three-handle shower faucet?

An intermediate rating means you should be comfortable with basic plumbing tasks, including cutting pipes and making secure connections. Experience with soldering copper pipes is crucial, as the new valve typically requires soldered connections. You'll also need basic carpentry skills for opening and repairing the access wall.

The estimated time is 16 hours. What aspects of this conversion project take the most time, and can it be completed in a single weekend?

The 16-hour estimate accounts for significant stages like creating wall access, carefully removing the old valve, precisely soldering the new one, and thorough leak testing. Repairing and finishing the access wall also adds considerable time. While possible to do in a weekend, spreading it over a few days allows for drying times and meticulous work, especially for leak checks.

What are the critical safety considerations, especially regarding soldering and working with plumbing behind the wall?

Always turn off the main water supply before starting. When soldering, ensure excellent ventilation to disperse fumes and have a fire extinguisher nearby; protect surrounding studs with a heat shield. Wear appropriate PPE, including safety glasses and gloves. Thoroughly drain pipes to avoid steam buildup during soldering.

What are the most common mistakes DIYers make during this type of shower valve conversion, and how can they be avoided?

A common mistake is improper soldering, leading to leaks. Ensure pipes are clean, flux is applied correctly, and joints are heated evenly. Another error is not thoroughly leak testing before closing the wall; pressurized water should run for several hours. Also, double-check the new valve's orientation and depth before securing it.

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Now it's time to replace it with a new Moen valve. The first step to any successful plumbing installation is preparation. Make sure you understand the scope of this project before you begin. Moen recommends watching this installation video first. It explains how to install a Moen 1 Handle Positemp valve. This is an advanced project, so you may need help from a professional plumber. Installation time will vary, but it will take at least three to four hours to complete. Two people are recommended for the job. Make sure you have the right tools for the project. Moen recommends using a Phillips screwdriver, adjustable pliers, adjustable wrench, tube cutter, thread seal tape, plumber's putty, caulk, tape measure, thermometer, and safety glasses. You may also need to purchase some plumbing materials, such as half-inch copper couplings, slip couplings, and tubing, and a torch and lead-free solder kit. Before starting any plumbing project, shut off your home's main water supply. If you don't know where it's located, contact your local water company for assistance. You'll also need to locate your access panel. An access panel provides a service area for plumbing. It's usually located on the wall behind your valve. If your home doesn't have an access panel, you'll have to create an opening. We recommend 14 inches by 14 inches, centered on the wall behind your valve. Moen's Positemp valve has both threaded and soldered connections, making it extremely adaptable to any type of plumbing. Copper, IPS or galvanized steel, PECS, or CPVC plumbing can be used with a Positemp valve. Most likely you will install your new valve with the same tubing or piping that exists in your home. However, you can combine different plumbing materials. In this video, we'll demonstrate a copper to copper installation. In other words, we'll use copper tubing to connect the new tub shower valve to existing copper plumbing. Sottering may be necessary for many installation steps. Be careful because soldering involves a torch. Have a good understanding of the skill before you begin.

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