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single boom tube at the uh at the end of the car, and it comes out right underneath the gas tank. >> Oh, I've seen pictures of that before. >> Yeah. It's a the boom tube right under the middle of the car in the back. >> Huh. >> And that's that's our boom tube, and it that's that's the RCR Series 3 Camaros. And supposedly Richard Childress put some sort of a like a an SB2 uh NASCAR motor in those. Yeah, something uh used a NASCAR motor, and they were hoping to sell 25 of them cuz I I I built 25 systems for them. I don't think they sold them all, though. >> I wonder what happened to the extra systems. >> Uh I'm sure that the person who uh was was doing that probably probably still has them. That's I-15 right there. We just crossed that. And so, this is more of the industrial side. >> Oh, how many dealerships can't hide? >> And there was. >> So, your primary business was NASCAR? >> It was. Unfortunately, I had all my eggs in one basket. I had paid less and less as NASCAR grew, I paid less and less attention to the street market. And um because NASCAR was very demanding. Um if you say [clears throat] Hendrick's called up and wanted something or another team wanted something. Um they called you because they needed it yesterday. So uh we put them first. They were always They were always first and and we did their stuff first and as a result, um I paid less and less attention to the street market. And that and allowed some of my uh street technology that I was doing really well with to get copied. That's unfortunate, but that's that is what happened. >> In hindsight, how could you have uh put [snorts] all your eggs in two baskets or >> Yeah. >> like what what could you have done differently to navigate that? >> I would have had to have cloned myself. Pretty much. It was I It was first thing in the morning till about 7:00 at night. >> Just to keep up on those >> Just Oh, yeah. >> You couldn't have just hired double the people and said, "All right, you're just going to make X pipes for Mustangs. That's it." >> in the '90s and early 2000s, I really struggled to get employees. And uh I went through a lot of them. And if I could train them and they were uh they were they were trainable and good good guys, which some were, then hallelujah, they were I I kept them, but boy, I went through a bunch of them. And uh in a in a almost derogatory sense, I came to say,…