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Preparation and Safety — Excavate the Old Seal from the Hub

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How to Connect PVC Drain Pipe to a Cast Iron Hub · Step 2 of 7

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Begin by identifying the cast iron hubs that need to be removed. Gather all necessary tools and safety equipment. This includes an acetylene torch, a flathead screwdriver for picking out the lead, a hammer, channel-lock pliers, and safety glasses. Critically, if working on a vertical pipe stack, stuff a rag down into the pipe below the joint to catch any falling debris or molten lead, which could cause a serious blockage. It is also wise to have a fire extinguisher and a spray bottle of water on hand for safety.

Goal: Prepare work area and gather tools

  • Failure to place a rag in a vertical pipe can lead to molten lead creating a permanent blockage further down the line.

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  • Acetylene Torch (brand: Unspecified, Tool Type: Specialized tools, Power Source: Fuel-powered)Heating and melting the lead seal in the cast iron hub.
  • Flathead Screwdriver (brand: Unspecified, Tool Type: Hand tools, Power Source: Manual, Screwdriver Tip: Flathead)Picking and scraping molten lead and burnt oakum out of the pipe joint.
  • Hammer (brand: Unspecified, Tool Type: Hand tools, Power Source: Manual)Tapping on the pipe stub to loosen it after the lead has been melted.
  • Channel-Lock Pliers (brand: Unspecified, Tool Type: Pliers, Power Source: Manual, Pliers Jaw Type: Groove Joint)Gripping, wiggling, and pulling the loosened pipe stub out of the hub.
  • Safety Glasses (brand: Unspecified, Tool Type: Safety equipment)Protecting eyes from sparks and potential splatter of molten lead.
  • Fire Extinguisher (brand: Unspecified, Tool Type: Safety equipment) · optionalExtinguishing any accidental fires, as an open flame is being used near wood.
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FAQs

Why is a cold chisel listed as a required tool, and how is it used in this project?

A cold chisel, specifically the Dasco Pro 3/4 in. x 12 in. Cold Chisel G410, is essential for carefully excavating the old lead and oakum seal from inside the cast iron hub. It allows you to break apart and remove the old, brittle material without damaging the cast iron itself. Use it with a hammer, chipping away small pieces at a time to ensure a clean interior for the new seal.

What are the most critical safety precautions I should take when connecting PVC to old cast iron pipes?

Always wear safety glasses (like the listed Safety Glasses) to protect your eyes from flying debris, especially when chiseling old material or dealing with rust. Use heavy-duty work gloves (e.g., Husky Large Premium Grain Cowhide Leather Heavy Duty Impact Work Glove) to protect your hands from sharp edges, rust, and potential contaminants. Ensure good ventilation, as old drain pipes can contain unpleasant odors and bacteria.

How long does this project typically take for a beginner, and what's the approximate cost?

For a beginner, this project generally takes 2-4 hours, depending on the condition of the old seal and your comfort level with the tools. The primary cost will be the PVC pipe and fittings, the rubber compression gasket (donut), and a few specialized tools like the cold chisel, totaling roughly $30-$70 if you don't own the tools already. These costs can vary based on local prices and specific product brands.

What's the most common mistake DIYers make when installing the rubber compression gasket, and how can I avoid leaks?

The most common mistake is not thoroughly cleaning the inside of the cast iron hub, which prevents a proper, watertight seal. Ensure the hub is free of all old debris, rust, and scale using a wire brush. Additionally, apply a generous amount of plumber's grease (Oatey 1 oz. Plumber's Grease 30620) to both the gasket and the PVC pipe end to help it slide in smoothly and create a tight seal.

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good knowledge to know. I got my safety glasses here. I got my acetylene tank with the turbo torch on it. I got a screwdriver to pick the lead out. When you do a horizontal, obviously the lead is going to fall out on the floor. When you do a vertical, lead is just going to sit in there. This is open from letting it go down. So you got to kind of kick it out as you melt it. You got to brush it out. So you can use a flathead cleaning brush. Now the lead is dirty like you're in a trance or something. You got to use a cleaning brush. You got to clean that dirt off. The lead for some reason doesn't know as well. It takes forever. But we're not in a trance. It's above ground. One thing I will say if you're on a vertical piece like this, I'm not too conservative. Anything drops down into the pipe. I can just reach my hand in and grab it out. But if let's say we're on the second floor, you know, the first floor, I'm melting the hub out from there. I'm not going to be able to reach down and grab it. You got to put a big rag in down there to stop anything from dropping down. I've done it where I've taken the cast iron out and the lead is still hot and liquidy. And I pulled the cast iron out and the lead dropped down into the pipe. And I was going to go crap and I'd fix it. But basically all you do is take the torch to it and you melt it out. If you want, you can wear a mask. I just wear glasses because lead, especially those water around them. If water hits hot lead, it kind of like pops. It explodes kind of.

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