Turbo LS Horsepower Test! E85 Ethanol vs Pump 93 Octane (What's The REAL WORLD HP Difference?)
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This project details the process of dyno tuning a GMC Yukon XL after converting it to run on E85 fuel. The video covers initial baseline runs on 93 octane, switching to E85, performing multiple dyno pulls, diagnosing and troubleshooting various issues like misfires, power drops, and inaccurate data readings, and finally achieving a significant increase in horsepower. The process highlights the iterative nature of performance tuning and the importance of proper sensor feedback.
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(16,196 characters)well it's like smoking a lot now did we just kill it it's time to dino uncle rob again but we have more fuel pump now we are on e85 we're not gonna change the boost level we're just gonna see how much more power e85 makes over 93 octane so if it's 10 pounds now on pump 93 versus e85 um it made 450 at the tire before should make 550. you think it'll make 100 more horsepower just by changing from the 85 yes 449 468. one of these times we gotta adjust this thing and dyno in four high once we got like a solid number for two wheel drive we gotta do it in two high and four high to see how much power four wheel drive loses built in texas by texans fun fact that factory is like a mile away i see them bringing frames in on trains uh at least once a week when i go on my daily walk around the industrial park ashley thinks he can put oil in here without spilling it i call bs the fans are on i betcha oh it's yeah it's the fans that's that's why it's not gonna work it's fans fault i said just give me a final he's like no i can do it i have to do a guide all right everybody be quiet no psychology it's like golf cue spongebob code six years later how much those half a quart is that good i mean i was gonna put put all of it in there just because hey don't do that that's why we can't check it why because adrian broke it off in the block so it's just chilling don't touch it it's okay the whole thing we don't that's why i'm putting more in because we can't check it that's the whole point here dank shirt though leave a comment if you know what that's from i know you know so we're making a poll of some kind here although he didn't exactly tell us what he's doing i guess we're just filming and finding out sounds like it broke up i wonder what that was what was that big ridge pig ridge it still made 440. so what'd you change fuel a lot of fuel a lot of fuel pulled it out pulled a lot out so see how it does now we will see how it goes you want to hide behind the blast shield and you got your certified safety glasses on what do you think john i think it's gonna be a good day i think we're gonna make some power that's it i think i think we're good let me take it his optimism is about to take bobby the soccer practice what was that about to take reese bobby yeah john says tanner looks at home in there tanner's daughter's name is reese and you know i started calling her rhys bobby reese bobby's him you know she just wants to go fast he's gonna laugh i don't know what's going on right now momentary break oh man what did it do it sounded like a full pull that time what is it why is this what did we do it's smoking but how much power did it make 455. okay now we figure out why it's making smoke oh is it the oil from the oil that ashton missed yeah yeah see that's why i wanted a damn funnel i didn't spill it though until you started talking about chinese doctors is that all it's just boiling off the manifold yeah i need them to find the wideband we need to find the y band 477 it's climbing still definitely not where it's supposed to be though um why doesn't it show torque can we get it to say torque yeah uh and the thing is since it's we're going off your uh your coil wire instead of the obd so the rpm which is which is calculated for the torque it's kind of jumpy because the coil wire isn't as accurate as obd oh i could try it but it's probably gonna look all haywire but just because it's like you know we're making the pool and the rpms are bouncing around yeah it's not getting a good read on your coil wire oh and so the rpm goes through like a uh some kind of algorithm and then they calculate support with everything else interesting well that doesn't make sense because horsepower is a function of torque so torque would have to be an accurate number in order to get horsepower to begin with i don't know how that makes any sense but it ain't my dino so oh well so that power bump was just from the fuel difference it was 11 degrees same timing as the 93 no lower less so you're adding more let's see what she does do you think we'll make over 500 yeah okay here we go i think we'll make over 500 this time we'll see that sounded like some more power did we make over 500 this time [Music] 503. sweet there we go 500 500 at the tire and we're still what 10 11 pounds yeah did you find the wide band where was it right where you said it was no john i think you got played i think i did two i walked over there three times [Music] like you know maybe someone stole your cats someone stole my cats where my cat's at them down the hairy lines to be about already but it's it would be hard to say on 10 pounds but with smoothing off you can see it dipping in and out of powder yeah so you think that could be valve float yes very possible drawing the old camshaft say at least i don't got to deal with rust to put a cam in i know how to put a cam one of these things pretty easily what'd you change uh some more timing more timing we'll see what it does that sounded like power that sounded like more power what is it what the hell what happened same thing look hey oh we're getting getting the wavies up there that's a big difference yeah that ain't good what happened just getting feeling right i was wrong narrow bands lie that's why you always use wide vans was it fat or lean lean um and narrow bands were saying it was rich interesting so don't trust your narrow bands kids always use a wideband lessons of the day so that means we got more power to make hopefully it may like lean 497. oh we gained one horsepower back made more power but still less power than the first time maybe because it's hot now we'll see if we can get above 500 again 4.95 what's the smoke the same thing ashen's oil shame it's okay good job uncle rob doing great well dang i was losing power because it was getting hot somebody unplugged the fans never plugged them back in so we're gonna let it cool down a little bit and it should make over 500 again i was wondering why it was pulling so much timing out it makes sense now what are the intake temps they're fine they work so boosted boys old intercoolers doing a good job what we had to blow a pipe off or something or really hold on more smoke what happened nothing i just my screen was gone so i couldn't unlock the converter what'd it make oh it lost a lot yeah well well it's like smoking a lot now did we just kill it look look down my flashlight looks like it huddled up right there oh it's fine yeah it's just burning off the head and everything else now because it got hot in here so let it cool off for a little bit we're gonna do it again let's see what happens if you change anything or just make it a oh you know what i bet it is i think it's blowing the dipstick out of the the thing and blowing up on the bottom of the manifold yeah yeah that's what it is ah that makes total sense so you think that factory little regulator is not not doing it what does this go to um i don't know old evap something no that's not sensors if they didn't plug back in that's why it says it's knocking so bad that's not how do you even plug it in where's the pigtail at the back of is that the intake for it right here where yeah let's plug that in so that could be like knock taking timing out pulling a lot of time oh time for the pains we're going to put that you got that fire extinguisher ready in case it blows more oil onto the header yeah it's not a coincidence this was done today it was recharged today today all right hopefully it doesn't blow more oil onto that manifold in the eye be ready to the moon and the fueling is inconsistent with that regulator i added five percent on that one and it went to nine nine that's weird so that regulator is cutting it and matting it looks like that factory regulator is sucking it up right now that guy right there he needs to go away that's the burden of bad news right there so it's cutting fuel yeah this is why we test things we left that factory regulator in there to see what it would do and it's not doing well we have the other one we might have to make a summit run tomorrow for a fitting we'll throw that yeah well we'll have to you know do the change the lines around a little bit ashton said oh that regulator will be fine is it i mean it's still there i don't think it's doing its job though i'm just kidding i don't know this is where we test things yep don't trust the factory regulator this is what this is what you don't see when you go like you don't see all the little little bitty things in a performance shop like this is good for people to understand yeah that you don't just drop your car off it's not fairy dust and then it's done like this happens to your car too you just don't know about it yeah it's like watching how your food gets made you know you watch them put the sauce on it but you don't want to watch the chicken get butchered i bet that's more of a fuel thing than a valve thing that regulators it's not it's not happy it's not doing its job is that possible what could that regular be causing that dip in there too how does it dip it in no it's hot now a little bit that's the cleanest curve we've had yet i put another five gallons into the level go up 503. 503. okay so we went back we got back to where we started that should look better oh you highlighted it yeah yes the thick one is our current line because look at that dip getting that like that halfway point yeah it's like losing in the mid now it's not none of them are the same yeah it shouldn't be like that guys it's that regulator is not doing yeah compare that to the old 503 that one makes more that one makes more up top less in the mid it's tuning that's weird it's tuning that's why that's why a 503 mustang can be a 503 mustang like this because it's all luxury no it's just the peak number it's not the whole curve so where the big dip is is it's like really lean from like 3 000 to like 5052 and then the fuel comes in better and that's where the graph starts peeking off and getting better so we're going to add fuel to that little range and see if we can get this out so you think that regulator is being weird is it not like big changes no huh well it wouldn't even big no it's not being changed five percent isn't a lot i put more gas in it maybe that did something maybe maybe it was way off 5 26 dang we made a big jump that time 5 26. that was different experience that was a one-to-one gear that was third that was third what were you using before second so all these polls were in second gear yes i didn't know that that was a different gear that's why it made more power 40 miles an hour yeah i felt the driveshaft start shaking that's why i let out i didn't even hit the rev limiter but it tapers off and i'm pretty sure we got valve flow i mean look how yeah it's a little bit jagged up there interesting don't mind the haze can we put another regulator on it yeah we'll put the the diesel regulator on there and fix that dipstick um we'll just plug it in plug the dipstick we don't need no dipstick 86 or something like that yeah i was negative 10 years old when that movie came out i would rather not even turn up the boost just leave it like this and just go race well i want it to go to what you call it i want i want to i want you to go meet chase i don't know if we'll beat chase with much power but we can beat someone else i want it to go to the king off party baylor oh shut up if you can't spin street tires free tires you got nothing for uncle rob got it three quarters three times on three tires just you won't get that you only you won't get the 330. we'll leave at the same time all right you'll be out there yeah and i'll swing and then i'll hook a little bit yeah if you pass me you'll get i'll get passed by your trunk after you looped it something's not happy because it was like you know when like you get like the newer trucks with the aluminum drive shaft and you get over like 120 it's like that's what it started doing well the yolk the pinion yolk back there is like coming apart from being rusty so it's definitely not balanced like i want to change that thing i'm gonna change that opinion yolk for just cause like it might break just from being thin from rusting off of pieces this thing made 580 foot pounds at 4 200 rpm 4200 rpm that's like right when the converter's coupled so this the converter comes in this thing it just could be like a diesel truck ah that's cool so what did it make on 93 450 so close to 150 that's significant 75 horsepower that's a lot yeah just changing fuels i think over 100 foot pounds of torque because i think it made 470 torque at the tire last time so we went almost up 100 horsepower and 110 foot pounds of torque 110 foot-pounds so this thing we're gonna do we're gonna do it at we'll be nice so the internet doesn't hurt us we'll do 10 drive training that's almost making 600 500. i'd say it's probably making 600 flywheels what is it turn on a transfer case dude yeah i said 10 the rule of thumb's 20 is what everybody says and it being a four-wheel drive and that long having a 400 and everything so transfer case yeah yeah i think it's safe to say this thing's making 600 horsepower so 104 is 20 so 629 yeah yeah 629 roughly a little rough around the edges but that's okay does this thing look like it makes 600 horsepower no no doesn't look like it makes 300 horsepower yes does it look like a fun time yes because it is it made more power which is pretty cool timing was a little aggressive i'm going to turn it back down for race week i'm going to turn the timing down i may even want to put it back on 93 just because i don't want to drive around everywhere looking for ethanol just to go you know four tenths faster it's really not worth it to me when you're that slow anyway like uncle rob doesn't race car we are going to do race week with it and it's got to be reliable so we got to get uh super to entertainer in there and go make it reliable 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