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>> Yeah, Tony Glover. Yes. And they said, "Tony, it sounds like you got 180° headers on your car." Well, of course, which were illegal. And he says >> Well, I don't know. Something that I've been aggravating is about a new driver. They're calling him Nigel Mansell now. It's just something that the guys in the engine room come up with a little different combination in the engine and seemed like it's working pretty well. >> It just sounds so different than anything else we've heard today. We used to hear the old 180° headers. Is it somewhat of a variation from that? >> Well, not really. It's more like 140° headers, but to be honest with you, I think it's a little slower, but Larry and Rob like the way it sounds, so I guess we're going to run it. >> He just He's just making up some BS. To to tell the press. And so at that for the 500 on '95, he started up at the front. And as that race went on, he gradually in under under green light green conditions lapped slowly lapped the entire field except for about 11 cars. There was a caution at about lap 185 out of out of 200. >> There's four cars that broke away a little bit right now. And then you got another another travel of three of them and you got everybody else still running side by side. Beautiful picture through that trial just how close they're running. >> The media was going crazy. Well, is Sterling going to pit and lose track position or or not? Well, he'd pitted maybe 10 laps previous or 15 laps and uh Sterling >> at this race? >> I I I have it recorded. I've watched it many times. >> Like were you physically there? >> I was physically there. Yeah. I'll Yeah, I'll get to that. Sterling stays out. And so everybody else does because they don't want to lose track position and they're still on the lead lap, but they're not as fast as Sterling is. Except for Dale Earnhardt. >> Earnhardt has brand new tires. Yours are worn. Can you still beat him? >> Well, I don't know, you know, that was We were in a no-win situation. I feel like if we if we had a pitted, he wouldn't have pitted and we would have been in the rear in his position. So, you know, we got 10 laps to go. We've had a heck of a week down here already and you know, whatever happens will just happen and uh take a chance on >> You've been talking with Ray Evernham. Are you and Gordon going to hook up