5 Trade show Machines I would not buy.

both 74 horsepower, >> right? >> Absolutely. 74 is the way to go. >> The Takuchi name, in my opinion, we were the first in the compact excavator business. >> And that's Takuchi for you guys. KO. Why would I have got a KO and not a Kabote? >> Still punctures up to 3/4 of an inch. >> I see a nice big back wide step on this. >> It's GC for game changer. >> [music] >> Let's go. These are the top five pieces of equipment that I'm not thoroughly convinced on. So, we're going to go through some of the past shows and I'm going to show show you products that people tried to convince me were top of the class or upper echelon. And afterward, I'm going to tell you my actual thoughts on this on these pieces of equipment. So, without wasting any more time, let's get into today's video. All right, you guys, we're going to go into the Takauchi booth and look at a new excavator. Justin, how are you? >> Hey, Justin Smith, Takuchi. >> Okay, so this is brand new by Takuchi, right? >> Absolutely. It's our first machine in the reduced uh tail swing market. So, our first uh non-conventional tail swing excavator. So, what makes this thing different than what's already being offered out there, Justin? >> Uh, the Takiuchi name. In my opinion, we were the first in the compact excavator business. Uh, we've been the most innovative. Uh, strength, rigidity, uh, performance, that's what we go for with our excavators. >> Okay. So, walk me through this machine. This is an 8,000lb category. >> 3 and 12 ton machine. Yeah. Reduced tail swing. Uh, we've got a nice spacious cab. Uh, new, uh, color touchscreen monitor. Uh new jog dial control on these machines. Uh very responsive controls, pilot control machine. Uh great size cab for this size class of machine. Go back here on serviceability. We've got a nice large air cleaner air air uh intake for for all the engine area. Um we're using a K Cabota engine in this one. >> A K Cabota engine? >> Yeah, K Cabota engine. Uh we we primarily partner with them on >> How many horsepower is that? >> Uh this one is 25.6, six, I believe. >> Okay. >> We've got a nice large air intake, so our machines cool well. Um, >> okay. So, you you run a K Cabota engine. Why would a guy buy a Takuchi over just buying a K Cabota excavator then? >> Kabota makes good engines. Uh, but we make good excavators, so it's a good partnership. Um, everything that's bolted to that engine is different and Takiuchi made. Um, you're going to get more performance out of our machines. >> And you've partnered this with a new breaker. >> Yeah. So, now we've got a full attachment line. Uh, new breakers. Um, they're, uh, sold by our dealership network, warrantied and serviced through our dealers. Um, we do a one-year attachment warranty on this. Uh, 2year 2000 on the machines. >> So, tell me a little bit about the warranty on this. So, if a guy has a problem with this, he can just bring it into any dealership with >> you authorized dealers. Yeah. On the breaker, we're we're at a year on the machine. We're two year 20,000 hours. >> Two a year and 2,000 hours. Okay, we partner with this breaker uh mainly because of the nitrogen diaphragm inside. So, it's a nitrogen assisted powered breaker. Uh so, you're not losing power when you're actually using this breaker. It's going to encapsulate the nitrogen inside the breaker. >> Is this machine out and available now on the market? >> Yes. Yes. Yes. I've been >> What's the price point for a machine like this? Do you know that? >> Usually in the mid-50s on this machine with >> on this machine right here >> with the uh cab and all the the features on this machine here. >> Really? Yeah. That's actually a good price. >> Yeah. >> Why would a guy buy this over a cat? >> Why wouldn't you would be my question. [laughter] >> And that's Takuchi for you guys. All right, we'll get We're going to keep going. All right, thanks Justin. Appreciate it. >> Good to meet you. >> If you're not familiar with Takuchi, they are a strong company. They do quality work. I like I like that. But I do not like the for buying the first year of anything. I don't care if you love Ford, if you love GMC, if you love Chevy. The very first year they released their new models, you know, those are always the most problematic. And this guy said that Takuchi was one of the first in class with their compact track loaders. And they may have been the very first one that ever invented a compact track loader. There's some back and forth about that. Um, but to me that doesn't go far enough to warrant investing my money into this piece of equipment until it's been field tested and the bugs have been worked out of it for one to two years. But the price is phenomenal. If this machine is actually in that mid50 to 60 range like he was stating, this puts this as a very affordable machine. And if the Takahuchi name lasts in this unit as good as they have historically with all of their other equipment, you're probably okay. But you won't find me buying the first year of anything after it's been released. >> Sealed tire sealer seal punctures up to 3/4 of an inch permanently. Eliminates underinflation. One time installation lasts the life of the tire. Water cleanup. Non-corrosive. can be used over the road and off-road. >> And that's as fast as it works. >> Yes. >> Soon as it goes round. >> Yes. One revolution. >> One revolution. You know why it's one revolution? Cuz it's revolutionary product. >> That's right. >> The KO skid loader. And I'm with Doug. >> Yes. >> Doug. Doug's from KO. >> Is this our >> This is our CL35 track loading. It's the only model that we offer right now. >> Is it actually out on the market? >> It's out on market. It is. >> How many horsepower is it? >> 62 horsepower K Cabota. >> 62 K Cabota. Okay. So, it runs a K Cabota power plant. Okay. Right. >> Okay. I'm not going to go on the record endorsing KO or Kado equipment. I'm not even sure how you pronounce it >> because I've never actually had an opportunity to run any of it. But I am going on the record to endorse the K Cabota components that they have in them. I own multiple pieces of K Cabota equipment and they're all absolutely phenomenal. So, I can see why other people in the industry are borrowing their equipment and putting them in their units. >> Right. It's a 8,000lb class track loader. >> Midsize frame. >> Midsize frame. Okay. >> Size frames. Um, as you can tell, it's Japanese made. >> Uh, we got a couple things that are a little bit different. uh travel motors up a little bit higher, a little bit better angle on here for uh for the clean out for your dirt and a little bit more power by having that up. >> Okay. >> Uh segmented sprocket on the travel motor, >> so you can replace >> you can replace take that off halfway and you're able to pull the track off fairly. >> Okay. Um, it's got you can the uh the lift rate on it is you can hit a triacle down the truck, be able to load a triacle out, but it's got about 13t on top. >> Okay, how's our access to that? >> You're good. >> How fast would you break that little mirror off if you guys own this machine? I don't think it would last very long out on a job site. I don't even know what the heck that mirror is going to do. >> Does this swing out? No. Okay. So, your K Cabota's in here. >> Mhm. >> Okay. >> Then the cab lifts up for uh maintenance also. >> What about service? >> Service is fairly easy on this. You got your hydraulic tank over there. All your filters, water separator, everything's kind of up front on the >> What about a dealer network? So, if a guy has a problem that he's not going to want to service himself, right? >> Is there a dealer network set up? >> We got dealer network across the US. All across the US. >> Okay. Uh KO, why would it have got a KO and not a K C Kabota? You got a K Cabota engine in it. Why would you want to go with a K Cabota rest of it? >> Well, it's Japanese made. Japanese made Kado actually and KO purchased at IHI. So, we were IHI back in the day. >> That's still not convincing me why I want to buy one over. >> Well, availability one. Okay. >> Right now, we got strong availability. >> Strong availability. >> And uh good deal. >> How about a warranty? >> Warranty on that is 2 year or 1,000 hour, whichever. two years. Mhm. >> So, what's the price point on >> price point on this? You're in that 1560,000 range depending on what options. >> So, it's not really cheaper than available Kabota, >> right? >> Right. Now, we're we're competitive with everybody on that. >> Let's go inside of it real quick. And you don't have anything bigger than that. >> Okay. I see a nice big fat wide step on this. Sit up high. I got the uh roller coaster lap bar, the old school. I love that. That's just my personal preference. Some guys don't like it. They like the flip ups, but I don't mind the old school lap bar cuz you don't bust your elbows. You used to. Uh so we got a foot plate. We don't have a foot throttle here at all. >> So we've got a throttle right here. >> All right. That is the KO skid loader. You guys tell me what do you think of the KO skid loader? >> Thank you. Much appreciated, sir. >> Thank you. >> Much appreciated. >> If guys uh if you guys wanted one, where would they go? Is there a dealer network? Okay. >> So, they can uh reach us at compact expect sales or ktoces.com. >> Okay. >> And we've got a dealer network on the website. >> Perfect. All right. Thanks, D. >> Appreciate have a great day. >> Y, too. >> All right. So, this may be one of the more controversial ones. Now, he said Japanesemade multiple times, and that is actually a very strong point. The Japanese culture makes phenomenal pieces of equipment. They don't tend to cut corners. Their reputation is there. It's just their culture in general. But to me, that's not worth me pulling out my my pocketbook and buying it just because it's made in Japan. A couple things that flew the red lights on me was that warranty. Was that a 2year 1,000 hour warranty because that's one of the least one of the worst warranties in the industry. I don't know how else to say it, but I just want to make sure that warranty may have changed. Make sure if you're actually investigating into these guys what that warranty is like because a lot of people are offering much better warranties out there. Now, let's go to the back of the machine. They had a couple things on there that just stuck out to me. The first thing was that mirror. I'm not quite sure how long that would last, but we've already addressed that. The accessibility. It looked like it had accessibility, but why didn't he show us that? If that was a flip out radiator, he should have just ch and flipped it out. Now, if you've got to unbolt that, that's extra steps. And if you're unbolting it in northern climates where it's cold, wet, muddy, dirty, you know how miserable that is to pull the wrenches out just to get at something so you can look at something else. You just want to pull a lever, yank a radiator out. I would have loved to seen that. Now, it had the old school lap bar that came down over you. Yeah, I enjoy that. Well, I enjoy that cuz I ain't got a big belly, but my dad had a big belly and some guys do, and that's just perfectly fine. But who wants to have that thing slam down right on your gut? That's why a lot of these companies are doing these open gate styles because it's a lot more comfortable. So that's another issue that I brought that I was thinking about. The price was not competitive to get competitive enough to get me to go, oh yeah, I'm going to go with a KO over a K Cabota, a Cat, uh, whatever, a John Deere. pick a pick a name that you guys are more familiar with. It just didn't feel like I was getting enough bang for the buck to make me want to switch over to that. That's just my two cents on this one. But you guys tell me what do you think of this piece of equipment? And would you buy one? And if you've ran one, hey, what's the feedback like on them? Because I've I've kind of wanted to try one out for a long time because some of this equipment can be very surprising. It can perform phenomenal. It can do things you wouldn't think it would do, but if you don't actually put your hands on it and get a chance to run it, you'll never know. All right, let's go on to the next one. >> All the guy that actually knows everything. >> I know you are. >> Okay. What's your name? Jason. >> Jason, nice to meet you. >> Nice to meet you. >> Can you walk us through uh this machine? Cuz this is a prototype new to you guys. Coyote. >> Coyote. >> Coyote. >> Yeah. You'll you'll you'll notice the dual coyote on the side. >> Okay. Okay. Okay. >> So, walk us through this one if you don't mind. Yeah, absolutely. So, um I'll start at the front if that's all right with you guys. >> Absolutely. Just an easier visual for everyone. So, starting here at the front of the machine, you can see we've got a lot of protection built in here. A lot of steel over the cylinders. So, we try to do a good job with some durability components here. We've even added just recently, and this is still a prototype, we even started to add some more steel around some of the power uh quick attach. Exactly. >> And so, we were trying to do a lot in the front. You can see we've also done some bolt-on. Some of these get bent up in here. So, we've tried to spend a lot of time up here with some dirt. >> Replaceable grip grips. So, if you beat them up >> Y and some of those other areas that are a little bit harder to replace, we've tried to add a lot of steel there. So, the other thing is is this open this door is open right now, but >> is this a K Cabota cab? >> So, it's going to be very similar to a Kobota or Takiuchi. The door slide like an excavator door slides up. Um, you know, a lot of customers are trying are steering a little bit towards this door and so that's where we started. I think >> I can just see the control panel is the same as a as a K Cabota. I I'm looking at the buttons. >> The buttons do have a similar feel to try to stay with the industry. >> You don't mind if I just stick a camera in your face? >> I can I can get out of the way. >> Well, that's whatever you want to do. I don't mind either. I don't want to kick you out of the out of there, you know. >> Hey, I love being on camera. >> So, you can see we've got a very similar layout to the stuff you see in the industry. Just try to make it easy for rental aspect. You know, a guy can get in and understand how to operate it right away. One thing that will you will notice is we do have a display in the front that does have a a standard display with a standard rear view camera. Okay. >> So, that is something that I think guys will enjoy and appreciate. But, yeah, you've got the the open door. It's a big wide cab. Um very similar control layout. They do have pilot joystick controls, so true hydraulics. So, for um touch and feel when you're operating um on the job site, there's a lot of feel to those joysticks. >> Okay. It's not electronic over hydraulic. It's direct >> direct true pilot hydraulic dissolves. >> The reason that's important is that just gives you a faster sensory input. Electronic over hydraulics a little bit more like driving a boat. >> This is more like driving a real machine. So, >> uh, in the back, you want to take us around and show us? >> We try to spend a lot of time. >> Now, this will be in a track unit, too. >> Yes, we will have a track unit, too. Both 74 horsepower. Um, kind of that most popular frame size, >> right? Absolutely. 74 is the way to go. Yep. >> Keeping away from death, all those things, right? >> So, I think the big thing I think customers notice right away is you can with two bolts right here and right here, you can swing out this radiator, get everything. So, for some of these that have the radiator in the back, they're hard to work over, hard to work around. It might be clunky to get it out of the way. This one simply locks in place. Two bolts, move it back, locks in place. You can get back just about everything. >> Get everything you need right here. Yep. >> What else should we know about this machine? >> I would say timing is the big question everybody wants to know. We're looking at first half of next year. >> First half 2023. >> The other thing I want people to know is this is just the beginning. This isn't a dip the toes in the water. We're getting into this type of >> What is Coyote known for? >> Tractors. We have a lot of tractors in the booth >> and now we're getting into more of the compact construction industry. And so this is where we're starting because this is where a lot of the volume is, where customers want to be, but we're going to keep expanding. >> How about service? So, you got a good service network for these things. >> Yeah, we've got a dealer network. It's a very large dealer network, which is why I think this is going to be very helpful. But, um, we've actually spent a lot of time in prepping the dealers on the service aspect because this is a different service requirements than some of the other products that you'll see in the booth. So, we're spending a lot of time getting dealers prepped and ready to go. >> How about a price point? >> Price point we don't have yet. We don't have final landed costs on these yet, but we will be very competitive in the market. I think one of our benefits is we're going to add a lot of standard features in this that are optional elsewhere while still being a very um competitive price >> and warranty. >> Warranty, we're going to try to do better um than the industry standard. That's industry standard is like 2 years, 2,000 hours on just about everybody. We're going to try to beat that. >> Okay. >> So, we're not finalized on that, but we want to give um customers confidence that when we get it, we're confident with it. We're going to improve it with the warranties. >> Very good. All right. >> Thank you, sir. >> Thank you. >> Thanks for stopping by. Y. >> So, when I look at a piece of equipment, I analyze everything. Not just the piece of equipment, but everything about that company that goes along with that piece of equipment. Now, from this skid loader, Coyote skid loader, I really did feel like this was a quality piece of equipment, but I also felt like they pulled the cab right off from a K Cabota and stuck it on their machine. But I didn't feel like they were cutting corners in any way, shape, or form. I just couldn't nitpick it apart to say, "Oh, this is wrong. That's right." Blah, blah, blah. But one of the things that does throw me for a big giant red flag is who they use to endorse their brand. To me, you've got to pick the right people to endorse your product. Let's take Caterpillar for instance. Caterpillar uses a guy named like I think Pushy 6. His name is Scott. Uh I think the dirt ninja uh gets trips and stuff and does stuff with Caterpillar. But the point is when those guys talk, I listen. They're in…