Career Path and Blue Max Success

and i was driving for gatorade before that with uh with cliff stewart up in high point north carolina then i got my big break when i came went to work for raymond bid and we won let's see 86 i won the valley deal 500 just only four or five races into it and then two races later we win martinsville and that was a good feel because you knew that it kind of i made it then you know i won two now not just maybe luck into one which i kind of thought i lucked in the first one at bristol but then when you go to martinsville and you win again you're like oh man this is pretty cool i think i'm part of the club now you know but uh so be like your time here is what you feel like when you were you were there like you were here to stay oh this was it right here blue max we had the coolest crew guys we had some of the fastest pit stops we had fast race cars we had a cool car owner i'm not saying i mean roger penske come on he's the coolest guy that i know you know when it comes to that but beetle raymond beatle was the king of having fun taking care of everybody always had a big smile on his face always cutting deals and he had a lot of friends and uh but boy i tell you what we had a hell of a time out of that building and with that race team 86 87 88 89 95 years or probably the best five years of my life you know as far as just growing up and learning things and doing that then obviously i move on to penske and that's where i really got my skills all honed and he taught me a lot he's a hell of a mentor for me did a lot but beatle is the only got me in victory lane and that was good you had barry dotson you know world-class crew chief you had harold elliott world-class you know engine builder todd parrot incredible chassis guy jimmy macar now runs basically a lot of joe gibbs's operation so this shop developed a lot of talent and they they found their own ways after the team fell apart uh and that was it wow i was just thinking back to something kenny said when we were doing the the valley park history tour oh you do that that's right yeah oh that's cool yeah that that boy that's a way back in the day now that's so we're kind of filling out the the story here like so you go you come there and then you you bounce around a little bit and you like get your feet here well there you know what you're talking about with kenny back in valley park missouri i was racing the american speed association myself mark martin the late alan quickie davey allison all of us doing that and i…