Live edge Problems Continued...We make every mistake possible while installing our Live edge project
Video by Stanley "Dirt Monkey" Genadek
Stanley "Dirt Monkey" Genadek
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This project details the process of installing custom live edge countertops in a kitchen, focusing on the challenges encountered due to the natural characteristics of the wood. It covers sanding, dry fitting, leveling, securing the countertops, cutting a sink hole, and applying stain, with a preview of the epoxy pouring process and solutions to unexpected issues like warpage and cutting errors.
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(16,079 characters)Last time we started to rebuild this kitchen by removing the old countertops that had been installed for over 15 years and updating updating them with the new live edge countertop that was 3 and 1/2 in thick, but it turned out to be a heck of a lot more work than we ever anticipated. Kind of like biting off more than we could chew. But we're getting we're working our way through it and we're taking you along step by step, good, bad, and in between. We made a lot of mistakes and we got a lot more mistakes we are about to make in this video and the one after it. And so we're going to show you everything that we do. So hopefully you guys can learn from what we learned and maybe do it better on your own project. But in the end, this thing turned out gorgeous. So we're going to share with you everything that we learned during this process in case you guys want to tackle a project like this on your own. So what are we waiting for? Let's do it. You have when you use a heat gun versus a torch. You see that dimpling in the finish? That's because of using a heat gun. Our torch is dry right now. Thankfully, this is just our sample piece, but you don't want to use a heat gun. It just does not do as good of a results for you. So, Frankie's attempting to repair it cuz it's still semi wet. Try in. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Look how Okay. See, that is that's it's coming slowly back to life, but you're holding the heat gun way far away right now versus uptight and close. When we got out, Mark, it's guaranteed they're out of here. Okay, so one of the problems we came across or one of the issues we came across is you guys see these straight lines right here. We confused this with bandsaw marks and it's actually part of the character of the wood. Some of it is bandsaw marks, but some of it is the character of the wood coming out when you stain it. So, you can sand and sand and sand and you will not be able to remove all of that. We just able to see it right here. You see that's in the wood. See how they going like this? That's that's in the wood. Okay. So you can see some of the the variation in the wood, but you can also see that this is the character of the wood as it goes across outside of the grain of the wood. So we're not talking about the grain of the wood. We're just talking about some of the properties of the wood. So we're doing this. We're actually using um let's show them what we got. You can set that down if you just like walking around with it. I like holding it. You like hold Can I turn it into a belt buckle? That would be one big belt buckle. Hey man, have you seen them cowboys? I have. Okay, so right now we're palm sanding, but the next step is hand sanding. Okay, so here's the order, guys. 120 on a palm sander, then 220 on a palm sander, then the palm sander disappears, and then we go to 400 grit and 600 grit. And we got to then we'll touch it all up and then we can actually start to install it. How many hours do you think we've been sanding on this thing, Frankie? Lots. So, that's going to be your biggest part of the work. Really, isn't it? It all depends on how good you want it to look. Yeah. Okay. Frankie's measuring the cut for the 45 that goes in the corner of the kitchen. So, this is where the existing countertop lays in. And how he measures it is he goes from the end to the farthest 45 to the farthest 45. So if we look at which I would do the front but we got that live we can't you know. Okay. So with a live edge we want to make this point you can't use the front because the front moves back and forth in and out and if you measure with that it's going to give throw off your measurements. Isn't that right Gracie? Right. She knows that. So, we're using the the back because the back stays true, right Frankie? Yep. So, the back is we cut the back straight and flush. That gives us our back measurement and that's where we're going to cut off from. [Music] Okay, you guys can give him a hand. All right. So, the old counter was actually resting on blocks which leveled it out, right, Frankie? Yeah. So, you can see that. So, this is Yeah. So, this is going to actually get repaired and put back together. So, we've got some minor minor repair work to do. small, very little. What we're doing right now is we're dry fitting the counter and then we get we'll be pulling it back out. Right, Cranky? [Music] [Applause] [Music] All right. This is the test to see if Frankie knows how to measure. Oh, I've got This one's actually long. It's just that I wanted to see how the 45s look. This is a test to see how Frankie does 45s. Push that down or sit on it. Go ahead. I'm not going to sit on it. Oh, they got See, we're have to I have to I'm going to take off some off the back so I can bring this closer. See, if I take about about what 3/4 of an inch off the back, it'll slide in. It'll fit better. I'll have to sand the rest. That's okay, guys. It will work perfect. There'll be some sanding, though. No matter what we do, there'll be some sanding. There'll be some sanding in place, plus also some shimmings. Cuz if you set it down, Frankie, let's show them what we're actually talking about. You see that difference in height right there? It doesn't look like much. No, but on a countertop it is. Well, yeah. Yeah, we can be off a little bit, you know, and then that'll tighten up too once I cut that off that back off. So, we'll shim it shim it up. So, there's some some differences you got to do when you're working with natural wood that you don't experience with anything else. Okay. So, I want to show the guys what you did and the gals what you did. So, now you're going to get closer. You trimmed off the back, right? To get it close. Now, you you were able to trim it in, but to get it exact. Show them your pencil mark, Frankie. Show them how you're doing that. Then, this doesn't match. Very nice. So, I just take my pencil. Somebody off these mats. He jumped up on the corner looking for food. Okay. And then I'll go outside the way and I'll sand down to my pencil mark. So you'll sand you'll take this piece outside cuz it's easier to handle. Yeah. And you'll sand this down and that'll help match it in better. It'll make the corner look nicer. Yeah. Okay. I put 3x3's back here and that's what we'll be anchoring our cabinets down to. Okay. So, the reason the countertops the reason he put those in is because that countertop's got a funky twist to it. It's not going to sit flush and level. This thing just will not it's not a it's it's a live piece of wood. It's just has its own character. And so, we've got to anchor it down to try to get it to be flush. So, we've got to anchor it in the back. And this is our nailer plate. [Music] And we're going to also have to anchor it in the front. And he's building the nailer plate for the front right [Music] [Applause] [Music] now. I want to show these guys. Okay. So, the end that we just secured, not perfectly level because the wood is already warping. If we're going to make this level, we got to get that much of a war angle out of it. Meaning, this side's got to come down. This side can't come up. The challenges of working with natural wood. So, this is where flu's backer board comes in. [Music] So, he pre-drills a hole first so he doesn't break the wood just by driving a screw through it. But you're not threwing a screw, Frankie. I'm putting these in now for leg bolts, but the lag screw or a leg screw, I should say. Yeah. Ever since I was a [Music] child creeps into my dreams, wakes me into sweaty sheets. Yeah. I'm wondering if I should put maybe put another one just to help it before I start. Yeah. Just to just to just to help it out. Yeah. Okay. So, what Frankie's talking about is he's putting that second one in and then [Music] tight tightening them up in unison that way. At a five. No, I don't want that big one. in case we need them. I got that one. Okay. So, you want a five? Yeah. 5 in. So, he's got six and [Music] fives. It's what I can do. What I can do to be with you, but you know there's music, too. Frankie, we're level. Go down just a hair, dude. We're We're We're actually Well, we can go down just a But we kind of lift it here, though. See? Oh, we did pull it. See, it did pull it up. See, now we're about to anchor that cabinet down. Oh, yeah. Pull it back out. I'll let it go. I'll let it back up. Yep. All right. So, you can see where we actually pulled We actually pulled that cabinet. We lifted the entire frame of that cabinet up. Is it down yet? Yeah. Looks down. Looks downer. So, this is a continual pro. It's going to be a continual slow process to get it to to twist the right way. Okay, guys. This is where things get interesting and Frankie gets nervous. Don't you, Frankie? I don't like doing it. He does not like this part cuz it's a one shot. You got one shot to get it right. So, we're attempting to mount the sink. And when I say attempting, hopefully we will be successful. Okay, so let's take a look at the sink. It's a dual mount. Now, this is something you want going to want to be aware of. If you're going to mount the sink underneath, you're going to want the dual mount. And if you get a chance to get an open box, don't do it because you may not get the template. The template is really important. Now, we've actually marked off the dead center of the sink here in relation to where it's going to line up with the window with the cabinets below. Now, here's a bit of a challenge that we got. This thing is this is a live edge countertop, meaning it's not true and flat. So, it took forever to get this thing down so that it was actually flat, which you guys probably have seen and watched by this point. The sink should be mounted. The countertop should be flipped upside down to mount the sink. Right, Frankie? Yep. We should actually take this off, turn it upside down or mark mark our opening underneath to take it off, flip it upside down, mount our sink, mount our sink, but it's secured in place and it's anchored. I mean, it's anchored. It took forever to get it in place. So, we're going to attempt to do it the pol the Polish way. Yeah. All right, fingers [Music] crossed. Another thing to note is when Frankie is making his cut, he's cutting inside the line of the template, not outside. Because if you uh cut too wide, you can't go back with this. There's zero forgiveness. And if we're if we're too uh narrow, we can always sand our way out, right? Woohoo. Crawled, hammered, went at an angle. Okay. So, but we can do the same over here if we have to. Okay. So that's the that's part of the challenge for an undermount sink. You're going to see that, right? Well, so we Yeah, we can angle this. We can angle this side. We can match this side to that side. Yeah. You know. Yeah. We'll just have to fix that with sanding, right? Yep. And bonus, we got a breadboard out of it, right? Cool. Or fish cleaning station. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. Yeah, this blade must run in at an angle, but like I say, we'll just match this side and it'll be all right. Okay, so our sink cutout didn't go exactly the way we wanted it to, which is fine because no project ever goes always perfectly smooth in the real world. I don't care who you are. So, what we had happen was the saw blade came in just a little bit too much right in that corner and instead of being it perfectly up and down like you see here, it actually can levered in. And so what we're going to do is we're going to sand that down and then we're going to match it up on the other side to make it look like we knew what we were doing. Right, Frankie? So, in the first video of our build, you seen us cut that portion and we said this was the backsplash. Well, here it is. We're going to stain it, install it, and we're good to go. [Music] So, we're finally getting to the point where we think we're making some traction. We get the countertop in. It's perfectly level. We get all of the seams to flesh out. We get the sink cut out, mounted in place. We get our mistake there corrected and fixed. And we're putting down the first coat of stain. Everything goes good. We put the second coat of stain down. Bam. Looks good. But that's when things start to go south for us again for the third or fourth or fifth time. I don't know how many times. Anyway, let's see how this goes. [Music] So after you put the stain on, you then got to wipe it off. I'm not making this up. It's the truth. So, you put it on, you wait 5 to 7 minutes, and then you wipe it off. I wonder what would happen if you didn't wipe it off. It would stay them wherever it's heavy was dry on there, and they recommend it not to dry because it just turns it. It's nasty looking. It just doesn't look right. All right, so it's 6:00 on Saturday and Hey, Frankie. Is this This is going just smooth as silk, isn't it? Yeah. So, that's what we're working on at 6:00 on Saturday. All right. So, we're using this product. It's called glaze coat. Okay. And it's got this kind of funky two-step process where you take part A, measure that out. Then you pour part B into part A. You mix for 6 minutes. And then you, this is the important thing. And so if you guys are going to do this on your own and then you take this that you've mixed for six What the That's a Polish 6 minutes. 6 minutes after you've mixed it for 6 minutes and pour it into another container and mix it for another 6 minutes. And the reour and the remix is the important. Have you started mixing yet? But no, you can't slow down cuz I got to run grab them paint brushes yet too. So, I mean, you can take your time. I'm I'm I'm busy talking, Frankie. Now, I got to start all over again cuz of you. Buy me time. So, that's the uh that's the skinny of this stuff. But the benefit of it, and I'm I'm nervous as a longtail cat in a room full of rocking chairs cuz if I screw this up, we can't fix it again. No. Benefit of it is 70 coats all at once. Oh, and then we had more fun last night. I want to show you guys something. We were getting ready to put the backsplash on and we totally forgot that we didn't have room to actually put a faucet cuz we got a big fat black backsplash. So, show you what we had to do at the last minute. I think we worked on this till after 12:00 last night, Frankie. Yeah. You see this? So, we had to route out the backsplash because the faucet gets mounted right there. And this is where it came to before. So, you could see you can't mount a faucet. So, we knew we were going to be pouring this today. So, that's some of the adventures we're having. All right. Well, the next time you see us, we're going to be pouring the glaze coat on this countertop. Guys, it starts to get ugly really fast, but there's more coming at you in the next video. Kind of looks like I got wood. Man, I asked these guys to drop off some wood so I could work on a log splitter video. Music got the best in me ever since I was a [Music] child. Now it's showing it ugly face. Don't take any quite that much. But anyway, this video guys and the next one gets much worse. In fact, this was supposed to be a two-part series that became a three-part series because of how bad the next part actually goes. But when it's all said and done, it actually turns out really gorgeous. We're really happy with the results except for it just was a lot of extra work to get there. And so if you guys are uh tackling your own project, make sure you come back for that last part because whatever could go wrong and whatever we don't want to go wrong did go wrong. It's bad. It's just really bad. So make sure you come back for that one. And we got a lot more cool videos coming up. Like probably a log spplitter video. So tell me, what log spplitter do you guys think I should try to grab to do a log spplitter video with? cuz my log splitter got buried. And it's old. It's ancient. I mean, it's really old. Look at that thing. My dad made that like 40 years ago. But hey, it still works. Anyway, God bless you guys. Go get them. Hope this video's helped you out. And I promise you, we got more landscaping.
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