Factoring in Paint/Stain Type and Liability

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The type of paint or stain used significantly impacts the bid. The presenter avoids oil-based coatings due to high liability from overspray (which can travel 300 yards and damage cars/property) and difficult cleanup requiring paint thinner. Water-based coatings flash dry quickly, making overspray less of an issue. If a client insists on an oil-based product, an additional charge of at least $3 per panel is added to cover the increased risk and cleanup cost. The speaker recommends Benjamin Moore ARBORCOAT (Waterborne Solid Stain) or Sherwin-Williams WoodScapes for solid color stains due to their quality and ease of application.

Goal: Determine pricing adjustments based on the chosen paint or stain type, especially considering liability and material costs.

Tools and materials

Benjamin Moore ARBORCOAT — Recommended for solid color wood fences due to its water-based formula and good performance
Oil-based coating — Used for fence painting, but with higher liability and cleanup costs
Paint Thinner/Lacquer Thinner Various — For cleaning up oil-based coatings

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This fence behind me This was a oil based coating that I put on this fence I personally do not do oil based coatings ever anymore when it comes to fences And that is due to liability Oil based fences on a calm day like this where there's no wind at all It literally will float, carry up, off into the air And on a cool day like this it's not going to dry It literally can carry about 300 yards Land on cars, other products could cause liability issues And I've even run into some issues like that in the past A water based coating that would be like the same color A water based coating is going to lift up in the air If it does, it's a lot heavier But if it does lift up in the air It flash dries extremely fast And typically if it lands anywhere 10 yards, 15 yards away It's going to be just dry dust I've never had an over spray claim on a fence like this Even when you got slats like this that are far apart Where over spray can carry through But if I was going to do an oil based fence Just because of the inherent liability of oils going up in the air Carrying off and then even just the cleanup process Getting oil based coatings on you Cleaning up with our water or not water But paint thinner or lacquer thinners versus water is more expensive I'm going to charge at least $3 per panel So if I got a $35 panel charged with a customer's adamant They use an oil based coating It's going to be a $3 additional charge Just for that inconvenience and liability using that type of product So now we're going to get questions about fences that have gates So I got a gate right here And a gate is typically not a post-to-post 8-foot section We always just carry our charged gates As a panel irregardless of how Why they are as long as they are 8-foot or less So this gate right here is going to count as one panel Even if it's a little bit wider it'll still count as one panel If you're doing both sides it'll count as two panels This gate right here is a metal gate on the opposite side So it's powder coated metal And you don't want to get any type of stain or coating on that So you do have to mask it So I do have an additional charge If there's any metal on the gate That the customer doesn't want any of the coating on I'm going to charge $25 to mask off the gates So if I got two-fold gates that are opening and closing That are like six-foot gates or eight-foot gates $25 a gate to mask off those gates Now if the gate is wood and you're staying And it just like the rest of the fence Then…

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