bigger deal up here. So, and I think that was kind of Steve's theory in the beginning of putting Ralph Racing in Liberty was you get employees and you keep them. They can't It's not easy for them to leave. And and I think Bill probably piggybacked on that a little bit of like, you know, Steve Steve had a point there. All these If you looked at Petty Enterprises and you look at all these places up here had a lot of long time employees that were loyal that didn't just jump ship and roll a toolbox across the street. Weren't you supposed to go drive for Bud Moore or something before this or what? I feel like I read that somewhere. Uh yeah, there was a time I'd have to look back and think back on that one. Think back in my memory bank, but yeah, there was a time that they were wanting me to drive their car. I can't remember if it was that year or another time, but it seemed like it might have been around that time. Um Typical deal when you're winning when you're winning the Busch Series championship a lot of rumors start and a lot of offers start. So, you know, that's um So, but Bill and I we always stayed, you know, this was, you know, we could make this happen we could. Um it might have been before Gibbs or something like that. But yeah, to the point that, you know, uh Greg Moore um not so much Bud, but Greg was kind of running the team and it was like, you know, he was before he passed away I probably talked to him, you know, a few months before that. And he always would always bring up, "Man, if we could have had you drive our car, we might still be in business." I said, "Ah, I don't know about that." I'm not sure. I don't think it would have been me. But, um but yeah, there was a some point in time there you know, that were trying to get me to drive it, but you know, the the hanging team, you know, Terry drove for for Billy down here, so I mean, it was kind of kind of cool in a way that up here I was over here. There was a time that he was there. I think it was the same I don't remember hearing it. That was what? '93, '94? What Where did the offer come from for you to leave here and go to Gibbs? How did that come about? So, that came about with, you know, Maxwell House um was leaving the sport. Cuz they'd been in the sport with um Junior Johnson. Then they came here rookie year, '93, '94. So, they were uh they were leaving. And then announced they're leaving, you know, so early early early enough. So, probably George, David R. All those guys trying to find…
