Grandfather's Entrepreneurial Spirit and Vision

business and they had and they talked about and that's who he actually started with in the 60s that partnership they had a different Vision I think my grandfather's Vision was um larger than his and so after a few years the friendly parted ways and then my father joined so he was not a painter the real question uh that my grandfather had when he was presented this idea and I started talking about it is do you throw the roller out after you use it and the answer was yes and he's like I mean you know he knew there was repeat business there and Longevity you know in terms of the products he got through World War II being a good engineer so he was able to apply all that he learned I think uh those years in the war and post-war to the engineer inside of our business we're like right in the heart of New York I think I mean I flew into JFK and um we drew drove through a bunch of side streets to get here and it seems