Non-Sense Why BackRoll? When Do I Need To BACK ROLL? How to Paint Like a PRO!

this Christy Idaho painter here on paint live TV today I'm gonna be talking about back rolling I get a lot of questions and comments on my facebook Instagram and YouTube channel about back rolling and a lot of comments or statements ad not back going again today so I am gonna talk about back rolling when you should do it why you should do it and how you should do it so stay tuned for this video today's video is brought to you by paint life hose whoops these are custom hose whoops made to my specifications for the paint Live Crew and now you can find them on our store at store dot the Idaho painter com they come in multiple links they come in three foot five foot and 25 foot lengths these are soft Swedish style hose whips they don't have any metal banding on the end so they're more flexible they're rated at over 5,000 psi their custom lime-green with our own custom lay line on them you got to go check them out at store dot the Idaho Peter calm now let's talk about some back rolling so back rushing and back rolling are two different things one of them is using a paint brush one is using a paint roller but they're kind of achieving the same process and that is enhancing adhesion and also enhancing penetration after spraying with an airless sprayer so I'm gonna apply my paint with an airless sprayer and I'm gonna take a brush and either back brush over it or I'm gonna take a roller and back roll over it and they do achieve the same thing and that is better penetration and better adhesion so now that we have a little bit of understanding about the back rolling and back brushing and why you do it so we have the airless sprayer it's laying out a really nice coat of paint it doesn't enhance adhesion or penetration and the back rolling back roll back brushing process does I mean what surfaces do need to be back brushed and back rolled in the first situation I'll talk about I got a the paint life Academy right here I have a metal door right over there and we'll talk about the metal door right now so if I spray that metal door we'll give you a close-up look at that door that's a metal door it's got a smooth finish there's no wood graining to it or anything it's a smooth finish if I spray it with an airless sprayer it's gonna have on this really nice glass like automobile like finish and it's gonna look amazing it's not porous it's smooth and it doesn't need to have any hands that he's it's already painted and it's already been primed and painted we're gonna be painting right over the top of it if I do back roll it or back brush it will start off with back brushing it's gonna cause roping or brush strokes and it's just not gonna have that automobile like finish if I back roll it it's gonna stipple it and leave stippling all over that door and it's just not gonna look glossy like it was sprayed and that's one of the benefits to spray and it's getting that really really nice looking finish the trim around that door has been sprayed and the door itself has been sprayed so I definitely would not want to back roll that thing it's a metal door it's not porous I don't need to push paint into it I don't need to enhance adhesion so I have this wall right behind me right here so level-5 finish but it is a smooth wall and depending on what the customer wants you got to qualify it with a customer are they expecting your walls to be a hundred percent smooth a level-five finish but I got a level-five finish it's already been painted I don't need to worry about you know your paint penetrating into the surface because it's already been sealed I'm gonna be spraying a coat of paint right over the top of that it's gonna have a very nice smooth finish a level-five finish it's gonna look amazing now if I back roll over that I'm not enhancing any penetration because it's not a porous surface I'm not gonna handset heejun because it's already been painted and that the sprayer is coming out at a high psi and it's pushing that paint right on there and it's gonna get good bond and good adhesion if you're using a good quality paint if I back roll it one of the things I am gonna do is stipple that and it's gonna get a certain amount of stippling depending on the quality of the paint and the quality of roller so I wouldn't want to back rolled that so let me give you a scenario of something I would back roll and I got the outside this building and what we got is a composite siding and we'll talk about that right now so I do have this composite siding on the outside of the house and it's been already painted multiple times but if it hasn't been painted it comes out it's not an actual wood material a lot of people see and in my videos they'll see this wood siding it looks like wood but it's not it's kind of a glorified cardboard it's a fiber board that's got glues and primers and it's pressed and so it looks like wood but it is very porous when it comes out it comes out pre-prime and the very first time that you paint that it's really really good idea and highly recommended to spray the paint you can roll it if you want but you can spray it to get it on and get your paint on a lot faster the painting process is gonna be a lot faster and you're just gonna make a lot more money if you ply it with a sprayer but it is really really good and highly recommended to back roll it there's no pin holes there's no blistering and stuff like that from an aged product but it is kind of fibrous and it is a little bit porous so back rolling is gonna push the paint in after you spray it's gonna push it in it's gonna enhance the adhesion and it's gonna enhance the penetration so you definitely want to back roll it now after it's been back rolled and painted and say five six years down the road when it needs to be painted again it's already been back rolled once it has a nice smooth you know coat of paint on there it's probably just faded because the paint is aged so I really don't have to go back in back roll at that point in time now there might be some Sun beatin sides that got some open blisters now in those open blisters if there's open blisters and some of their little tiny gaps you're gonna want to back roll that and we what we typically do is back roll those blisters with a primer like a peel bond primer it kind of glues that blister back together but then when we're spraying prior to spraying I'm gonna back roll the same color over the top of that of paint and then I'm a straight right over the top of that because if you back roll even on the siding if you back roll in just one spot and not another spot you're gonna stipple the paint right here and then you're not gonna snip all the paint over here and you'll see it what we call texture flashing or roller flashing you'll look down you know the painted surface and you're gonna see where you rolled it for or didn't roll it so it's better to it's better to back roll anything prior to spraying when you're working on the exterior of a house so here's another scenario I want to talk about and we'll run into people who have these you know really nice wood doors that have been stained and lacquered or stained and clear coated you know over the years and they want to update and their house and make it look a little bit more trendy or a little bit more modern and they want that door pane and now and we're gonna take that door we're gonna caulk anything that needs to be caulk we're gonna sand and it really well patchily they needs to be patched and then we're gonna prime that door and typically those wood doors they were never meant to be painted to begin with they're meant to they're like staying great doors and so there's gonna be some grain and it's gonna be very porous typically even after the priming process and what I do is independent on the condition of the door I might have to back roll the entire door and I'll back roll it and then spray it sometimes I'll spray the paint on it and then back roll it and then spray another coat but a lot of it just depends on the condition of the door and how deep you got to push in the paint into any checking or splits or blisters in that door so some of it sometimes you can just sand that door down to bare wood prime it and then spray it and not have to back roll but you're gonna have to just determine you know the condition of the door and what it looks like what's gonna happen you're gonna spray this door I'm gonna spray the door with a white primer and you're gonna see like any types of splits and gaps and stuff like that then you can spray another coat of primer you'll start to see is the paint gonna fill that if the paint's not going to fill it you're probably gonna have to back brush or back roll it but then you're gonna have that trade-off gonna trade-off of stippling it or roping it versus spraying it but you can put two coats of primer two top coats on it and maybe that paint's gonna bridge that gap and fill those checks but a lot of times it will not if the door is very aged in the wood is very worn if it's a brand-new wood door and you're gonna paint it and there's a solid wood door you're probably not gonna have to back brush or back roll it I probably would not hit all so I'm going to talk about one more scenario and I got another scenario behind me over here I've got a smooth wall over here and I've got a textured wall behind me on the other side of the room right here and that textured wall it's kind of a heavy orange pale or what some people would consider like a heavy knock down texture and it's previously painted and it's previously painted so I probably would not have two back wall at all if I did back well I can spray paint on there and if for any reason I wanted to back roll it isn't gonna show any stippling it's not gonna show any brush strokes it's a very very forgiving texture and that's what you see predominantly where we live I know I traveled been over to the UK I've been I'm all over Europe and countries and a level-five finish is very very common where I live I've only seen it you know a handful of times in my career in Boise Idaho what you see is an orange peel texture or a knockdown texture in the very first time if that's bare drywall brand-new drywall it's highly recommended that you backrub rush or back not back rushing back rolling you'd be brushing for days if you're brushing it you back roll it and we typically would use like an eighteen inch roller if it's a bare drywall or sheetrock it's gonna be extremely porous and you do have to put a PVA primer on it to seal the pores of that in it and that's where I would probably do my back rolling process is I'm gonna spray that drywall with a PVA primer and I'm gonna back roll it then and then I'm gonna spray two top coats over the top of that and that is a situation even though it's a textured wall you know I would probably back back brush or back roll it not back brush but I'd be back rolling it so I'm going to talk about another situation now and if I have a wall see that wall back there a textured wall and I just did a patch on it and now I've got this patch that I've got and I've sprayed my texture on it now I'm gonna paint that if I just sprayed paint over that it's not gonna penetrate that fresh texture that fresh texture is very porous it's got pinholes all over it so you're gonna need to to me in my opinion roll it so I'm gonna roll that with multiple coats of paint that's a situation where your back brush or back roll so another situation is anything bare wood I have behind me I have some bare wood right here and I've got to my spray booth right there and it's got it's like kind of like a plywood material now apply what is bare wood it's very very porous it's got all kinds of wood grain to it and if I was gonna do any type of painting to that if I just spray paint right over that it's probably gonna peel within a year or two if it was exposed to the weather outside you need to back brush her back roll right over the top of that so let me give you one more scenario before we close this thing out and that's a deck and typically decks decks are would most of the time in in my opinion no matter how many times they've been coated they have to be I like to back brush them and not back roll them and we'll talk about fences to a fence and a deck typically our fences here I got one here and it's a rough sawn cedar fence if you just spray a product over that like a solid color stain or a semi-transparent stain it's just gonna throw a layer of a stain on there it is gonna soak in a little bit but you really got to push that product in with a brush and we take and we use like large 4-inch stain brushes and we're back brushing it in and we're enhancing penetration enhancing adhesion and it's gonna actually probably double the life of your stain it's gonna really push it in on a fence and so most fences even if it's previously stained we're power watching it's stripping it down to bare wood and then we're recoding it so it's a very very porous surface and no matter whether it's semi-transparent or solid color you've got to back brush that and you got to put a lot of product on in the person back brushing or back rolling has to have it really saturated and wet and the same goes for a deck a deck you know you want to back brush that deck and push the product in to enhance the adhesion typically there's gonna be some bare wood dry wood or if it's been you know done with a solid color stain multiple times there's probably nothing that is really you're needing to back Russia back roll to get penetration but it is going to enhance adhesion by back pressing it back rolling you'll see us use a sprayer to spray down in between the gaps of the planks on a deck so you can get it down there because a roller or a brush does not and the sprayer will spray it down inside there we'll use it just to do the gaps and between the planks and then we roll out that we typically will roll out the paint and then back brush it because I think the final product looks a lot better if it's actually back brush okay now I gave you a whole bunch of different scenarios about back brushing black back rolling so hopefully you you start to get a feel and a standing you know of the process of when you should do it when you shouldn't do it I mean every time you see somebody painting it doesn't have to be back rush or back roll you have to understand the substrate of what you're working on or you gonna enhance penetration are you gonna Hance adhesion are you going to Ammar the finish by putting stippling on it or make it look unsightly by putting roping on it those are some things you got to look at early on in my career you know I was back rolling every single house I sprayed in pretty soon I was asking myself why the heck am I actually battling this house and I was just told to get a roller I was told the back wall has told that you know that's the best thing to do but I had to sit back and ask myself why they started ask myself why and then once I understood why I was back rushing and back rolling you know it made it a lot more understandable and then I understood hey I got a metal door over here I don't want to backward all that thing and I knew why I didn't want to back all the thing because I wanted to have that automobile like finished hope you got something out of this video if you did please give me a thumbs up please consider subscribing to the channel if you subscribe to my channel hit that little notification bell it's right next to the subscribe button all it does is it notifies you every time I come out with a new video I would love it if you subscribe to our channel it really helps me out go check us out on Instagram and Facebook man we're they're posted all kinds of stuff you can see my family my kids my dogs uh just come hang out check it out I'd give all kinds of other little tips and tricks just um one minute 30 second tips and tricks you can find there go check out our store at store dot the 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