NASCAR Approval Process & Innovation Philosophy

the lifter Business Without Edinburgh so I've been there 17 years doing that which fasting has been the most fun for you all all of us is experience right I mean you learn everything you do there isn't isn't one that I say is a Shining Light it's just getting more information you know again I still love the design I like the sales side both so uh my partner in morale he is very very excellent on machines fixturing super guy I mean Ed's one of these people can walk through the plant and you'll hear something and no it's not working right we'll go over what's up you know so you know that we work real well together it's been a good and all these years later you're still doing stuff with NASCAR teams yeah still making lifters and yeah for the NASCAR guys yeah yeah so it's kind of odd but it's it's fun and of course I've seen the evolution of change and again the tighter the rules the harder it is to get more performance so back in the day you could do crazy things and today you can't do that so you're working in a window about that big right now if you see a two horsepower gain it's like I just got 25 I mean it's nuts and so it's getting more difficult to get an advantage you're looking for let's check out some of that stuff you got here upstairs the coolest wallpaper ever yeah massive yeah I want to start decorating with these so this is just different stuff over the years that a Donner worked on and uh only one ball so this is what the project I did years ago which was in a plastic Oil ring and of course the friction was just fabulous got it developed NASCAR wouldn't approve it it didn't melt no no we're great and uh but anyway that was there was some money lost in developing that but it was a crew of Peace So if they didn't melt Mr Ring guy why aren't they using those now well if they're illegal right if they make it where they can't run it Composite Materials then you can't well it's not illegal for my car oh no I guess I guess it's possible yeah the thing is this is not an inexpensive part to build because this is what you're starting with okay so you go from this to this there's still a lot of Machining right in a lot of ways it's expensive but it did what we were trying to do it worked great but then NASCAR killed it and you know you say there's other usages yes but you need something that's pretty constant if you're gonna make sense yeah yeah then this was uh this was a old fuel lifter we did which and Rick Vinnie at the shop came up with putting a…