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Site Visit 5: Winter Excavation Planning

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2 days at work, 6 landscape Construction sites, 1 big problem plus an Abandoned House? vlog #0003

What happens here

At the fifth job site, the client plans a basement addition excavation in January/February, a period of 'insanely cold' weather in Minnesota. The landscaper outlines the significant challenges and costs associated with winter excavation, including 'frost charges' (hourly rates for breaking frozen ground) and the necessity of using ground-thawing blankets. He advises the client to seriously reconsider and wait for warmer weather in spring to avoid thousands of dollars in extra costs and logistical difficulties, emphasizing that summer jobs are always subject to changes and winter work magnifies those complexities by eightfold.

Goal: Understand the complexities and cost implications of winter excavation for a basement addition.

Tools and materials

  • Heavy Machinery — Breaking ground, digging, and hauling soil
  • Ground-Thawing Blankets — Thawing frozen ground for excavation
  • Hay — Insulating the ground against frost

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going to cheat on the construction. All right. Fourth or fifth site, I don't know which. We're doing an addition and multiple additions onto this home. We're going to be coming 14 ft out. This is a garage. We're going to bring it side. We're going to create a third or fourth stall, whatever. Whatever that is. And back here, we're going to come out. We've got orange stakes set up. So, Ben, this is where the basement addition's going to go to is these orange stakes, right? So, we're going to come out here so the soil that we have in here gets excavated, removed. There's no spot on site, so we've got to export it. No no place to keep it on site. So, basically, we've got three trips out here just so you know, Ben. Okay. One is the excavation. Then we're going to have a big pile of backfill, so we're going to be hauling that away at the same time that we're digging. Then we're going to come back and backfill, so we're going to stockpile our backfill material. And then then we're going to be probably maybe in the spring or after your building is complete, us or somebody else will come back and have to do the finish grading. When do you want to start? Uh it probably wouldn't be just thinking of kind of what's going to happen, probably be January or February. And that's kind of why I spread spread all of the That's not going to help. That's not going to help that. All right, so when we bid this, just to let you know, Ben, we'll bid it as if there's no frost in the ground. And then what's going to happen is depends on what Mother Nature does. We don't know. Yep. So, we'd have frost charges, frost ripping charges, and that would just be bid based on an hourly rate. Okay. And then once we break through the frost, and I mean we can show you, you can see it. You can just look out your window and go, "Oh, they're done with the frost." I mean cuz you'll see that the equipment won't be vibrating the whole foundation of your house. Either that or we wait till the spring to do your job. Doesn't make a difference to us. Six to one, half dozen to the other. What's the frost charge? 150 an hour. Okay. So, if we get snow early, it's going to help everybody's costs. if we get snow snow blown onto your property. [laughter] Take the snow blower, dump it out here. The more snow you have up there, the better. Snow keeps frost away. That's true. It's an insulator. Another interesting point. This is a full basement right here, Tim. I'm glad you brought this up. This entire wall has to…

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